Yana – Thanks for the questions. I do think using sick days or anything other than being sick is quite risky and is probably unethical.
Fortunately my company does not give you a prescribed number of sick days. I think that is a good idea because no one abuses it (correction, I don’t, i don’t know what others do but it appears to work sufficiently) and you don’t come into work sick because you don’t want to use your sick days up. Is the issue that you don’t have enough vacation time or you feel bad letting sick days expire?
To explain myself further for you and other people I said the “settler” is the person that married young yes. But… I did say later that almost no one is everything of one of the characteristics but are a make up of several of them.
Being married doesn’t necessarily mean you have any of the “settler” in you. I just plainly used an example from my life. I know an individual that immediately after college married and that became their life, work was way down on their priorities (and I am not judging whether this is right or wrong either). Clearly that is not you.
I hope this explains my further.
I am married also (just had our one month! yay) and I am by no means a settler, my wife and I often only see each other at bedtime. (that is the important time anyway
I’m enjoying the convo here, should help me be more careful about the words/examples I pick!
I’m sorry you were offended. There is nothing inherently negative about the term “settling” but you seem to view it as negative. Why? Would you have felt better if I said young male?
Also, I am merely trying to convey the type of person that is very family oriented. Someone who isn’t that interested in making friends in the office and is content with their current friends and family. Maybe there is another term I could have used other than “settler.” I suppose it was first to come to mind.
I also state later in the post that no one is the exact to the examples I gave, but a combo of several characteristics.
One can argue to an extent getting married right out of college is settling down. It doesn’t mean you can’t also be a hard worker?
@ Mark – I like your unique approach. How do you avoid not switching the tables on the interviewer and insulting them?
We had an old partner that gave interviews. They were the most intimidating and scary interviews ever.
First the man was 6-4 200 lbs., just physical intimidating. When you sat at the interview he would ask what is your name, school, and a few other pleasantries. Then all he asked was, “What questions do you have fro me.” That was the interview. If you didn’t come with questions (good questions at that) the interview was quick and you were not getting the job. In this situation the interviewer purposely became the interviewee.
@ Brian – All the time I quit a goal because I sucked at it! I think the best way to insure that you do something all the way through 1) Track it or, 2) Tell everyone about it. if other people know about it, they can support you and even motivate you to complete, besides that, who wants to tell their friends they failed? or 3) do it with a friend. Make common goal with a bud and work towards it together.
@ Bruce – Thanks for your two cents, they are always welcome. I think your response definitely highlights the importance of research. Going into the interview, knowing what the standard wage is and the standard knowledge/work level is a great base for proving why you are worth more.
@ Jaime – I would love to answer your question but I think Cheryl did it for me!
@ Glenn – your right, researching does deserve its own post, and it will get it!
@ Cheryl – some great points on negotiations. I would definitely counter in questions about salary with a range. I would not want my employer knowing what I was getting somewhere else. If it is to high, they may loose interest in thinking your to expensive and if it is too low you may loose out on some money!
@ Ryan – Good point on having the windows down. I didn’t think of that factor. When I was doing my mini experiment I was able to keep the windows up. Probably made a large difference.
Scot – I think you have some valid points with the information we had about this new process. What do you feel now that Jeff posted additional information?
Jeff – Thanks for your input. It sounds like its alot more of a risky investment for a bank then what you would normally think a bank would participate in. But I suppose that it is that you are an “Investor” and not a “lender” as you said on your comment. Thanks again for your readership and comment.
I like the point of blogs don’t post drunk pictures! But I still feel like you guys have a more positive attitude towards the human race!! I agree as we age the content we search out and post matures with us. But I think the issue is the teenagers.
Teenagers will always be teenagers and is there to much social media, like there is to much TV and video games? I think we all would say yes, they all need to be done in moderation, so its not really a new issue. But I feel like social media is a bigger media than video games and TV. At least video games are done as a group often times, you don’t see many facebook profile parties.
Its more a new fold to the problem laid on top of the challenge of the next generation. I guess the question is, does a teenager lose something in developing when they are watching you tube video’s of ghost riding their car opposed to participating in community service, or networking at an after school program? Is this just a parenting issue?
Thanks for the discussion Greg and Norcross. I agree that using it properly is key. But I think the point is that most people, most people college years and younger are not using it wisely. We’ve never seen anything of this mass that attracts this many young people. I think I can see where the social media can be a determent to a childs learning and development.
I may have to shoot myself on the plane if I am stuck sitting next to some idiot on a conference call. Unfortunately people are not always born with manners and it is the airlines job to step in and enforce them to ensure everyone has a nice trip. I would hate to see cell phones allowed on planes.
You think crying babies are bad, what about cocky businessmen and teenagers!
nice points. I do many of these throughout the day. Befriending the little people is so important. In alot of offices processors and secretaries can be great allies in helping you get stuff done. can’t hurt to have them on your side!
Also google alerts are very important if your a heavily client/service oriented firm. I set them up for major clients to have stuff to talk about to the client or managers. Also can alert you to service needs they may need and you can anticipate issues.
Only disagreement is the busy sign. I prefer open doors (if my cube had one) If I need to really concentrate our office provides focus rooms where you can close the door and work uninterrupted (which I never use). I think it is more important to be open, especially in the beginning of your career. If someone does interrupt some important work, i politely tell them, I’ll come to their desk in x hours, I have to finish something.
@ Michel – Thanks for the comment. As for taking a broad layoff personally, i think that hints to my relative statement. Laying off 10,000 people may not be very personal, but it is slightly. It does at least mean you were in the first 10,000 to go. The only way I can see it not personal is if they went out of business and every employee was gone! But maybe I’m competitive and always want to be the best! Thanks again.
@ Dan – I never thought of it as good interpersonal skills but you have a good point. Good managers would know how to avoid saying things like that! Thanks!
@ Alison – A lot of us put our heart and our soul into our work. especially while we are young and may not have family’s of our own. Learning to take constructive criticism is one of the greatest skills you should learn from a young age. Thanks for the comment.
yana, chances are you need to file in both states… however, some states allow reciprocity. that is, if you are a resident of IL but work in WI, WI will not tax your income and IL will. But chances are you need to file a non-resident form in your non resident state and a resident form in your resident state. you should be able to either remove the income from the non-resident on your resident state form or at least deduct the taxes you paid. really depends… Good luck!
Zak – Thanks for the comment. I did a quick google search on BP ALternative Energy, found one article that makes it sound like it hasn’t been to profitable for the company’s shareholders. Link Below…
@ Jaclyn – facebook is alright for inspiriation. generally that just distracts me and I end up looking up hold friends for hours. I like your google doc idea. I do the same sorta by copying a link in several places or bookmarking it in a temp file until i can read it and fully digest it. Thanks!
@GL Hoffman – I like the your idea. I hope to get to it by April 1! Thanks!
@ Tiffany – I totally agree, sometimes the issue is breaking down the ideas and deciding on just one. Keeping an open outlook is important, but can be challenging at times when we must become focused on a single issue. Thanks!
ARRiiVE – Thanks for the comment. However, I still believe profit makes the world go round. Being worth something and sustainable growth are two separate things.
Most companies can run for a period of time without profit thanks to investors and loans. Working capital comes from investors that believe there is a potential for profit, otherwise they wouldn’t invest. Youtube will do fine for a while because google believes the short-term losses will lead to gains in the long run. Fortunately, because google makes enough profit through their search engine and other programs, they can support this risky adventure; i.e. infusing youtube with working capital. If 10 years down the road youtube is still unprofitable, you will see fewer upgrades, and maybe even a sale; it wont be growing anymore.
Blactooth – the good doctor has some interesting idea’s. unfortantly we will never reach the type of federalism he aspires for without starting the colonies all over agian.
Dan – Huckabee is still in the race yes. But he is more of an underdog than the Giants! even with a couple wins.
Ryan – good suggestion on the read. I perused Arnett’s site and he has some interesting theories. I liked his main reason for why adulthood has been pushed up and it relates well. Quote From Jeff Arnett’s Emerging Adulthood Chapter 1:
“The most important reason of all for the rise in the
typical ages of entering marriage and parenthood is less tangible than changes in sexual behavior or more years spent in college and graduate school. There has been a profound change in how young people view the meaning and value of becoming an adult and entering the adult roles of spouse and parent.”
I can see this. In the 50′s and 60′s for the most part children aspired to be like their parents. Like the Beaver’s. Now in the 90′s and 00′s we want to be like “Friends” for the rest of our life – That is good looking and carefree! There is definitely a change in what young people value out of life, and currently its Youth and Joy, not Stability and Comfort like the old days!
related – I am curious on Arnett’s opinion related to the perceived early entrance to adult hood. By that I mean the 13 year old girl that wants to act like a 20 year old at the mall? My perception is that this is a fairly new phenom (I’m young and I don’t know about teenagers in the 70′s and 80′s). Will this push the emerging adulthood stage even longer…. say from 15 – 25 years of age? Or are they just defining a new characteristic of the teenager stage?
Thanks everyone for your comments you all have some good points. I would like to address the sensationalism that a few of you have mentioned.
I don’t think this is the norm at all. In the above stat there was only a max possibly 27% of students with overactive parents, and that is split with underactive parents.
Here is a study that UCLA performed that gives some figures. It looks like there to much involvement in various college related activities from 3.7% – 10.3% of college students. All of the high end numbers dealt with students decisions around going to and what college to attend, which is reasonable.
The lower numbers averaging 4.3% of students feel their parents are too involved with dealing with officials, courses, and activities at college.
However, I did just waste all this time typing this comment cause I feel like these stats are inherently flawed. First they survey students. And as I stated above, the students that have helicopter parents are likely enjoying it and therefore would not report “too much” involvement. A good study would survey college officials and employers.
Also most studies state involvement varies greatly with race, white being the least involved. In addition, with a glance over of the various studies I located, they all seemed contradicting… some said it helps students, some say it hurts, and I even ran across one that says it hurts the gradewise but makes the experience better. (google: Study of Helicopter Parents)
My end conclusion… This is probably not a huge generation defining issue. But the stories are interesting.
Jacob – That is a good strategy to only borrow if you can repay them immediately. Often however, that is small money we are talking about. Fortunately for me, my family would not be able to loan me any significant amount of money!
Kate – I know how you feel. I had to borrow a few months of money from my Mother between the time I finished school and started work. My campus job ended, and I ended up living in IL and working with my father in a factory just to pay the rent on my apartment in Milwaukee until my “grown up” job began. It helped offset any expenses my Mom and Dad were helping to pay in that time off. Thanks for the comment!
How to Confront your Boss About A Vacation
November 3rd, 2008 at 8:45 amYana – Thanks for the questions. I do think using sick days or anything other than being sick is quite risky and is probably unethical.
Fortunately my company does not give you a prescribed number of sick days. I think that is a good idea because no one abuses it (correction, I don’t, i don’t know what others do but it appears to work sufficiently) and you don’t come into work sick because you don’t want to use your sick days up. Is the issue that you don’t have enough vacation time or you feel bad letting sick days expire?
Workplace Relationships: How do you choose your friends at work?
August 27th, 2008 at 4:36 pmI did not mean to offend you either Natalie.
To explain myself further for you and other people I said the “settler” is the person that married young yes. But… I did say later that almost no one is everything of one of the characteristics but are a make up of several of them.
Being married doesn’t necessarily mean you have any of the “settler” in you. I just plainly used an example from my life. I know an individual that immediately after college married and that became their life, work was way down on their priorities (and I am not judging whether this is right or wrong either). Clearly that is not you.
I hope this explains my further.
I am married also (just had our one month! yay) and I am by no means a settler, my wife and I often only see each other at bedtime. (that is the important time anyway
I’m enjoying the convo here, should help me be more careful about the words/examples I pick!
Workplace Relationships: How do you choose your friends at work?
August 27th, 2008 at 3:27 pmI’m sorry you were offended. There is nothing inherently negative about the term “settling” but you seem to view it as negative. Why? Would you have felt better if I said young male?
Also, I am merely trying to convey the type of person that is very family oriented. Someone who isn’t that interested in making friends in the office and is content with their current friends and family. Maybe there is another term I could have used other than “settler.” I suppose it was first to come to mind.
I also state later in the post that no one is the exact to the examples I gave, but a combo of several characteristics.
One can argue to an extent getting married right out of college is settling down. It doesn’t mean you can’t also be a hard worker?
Interview Tip: Leave the salary out of it.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:07 pm@ Mark – I like your unique approach. How do you avoid not switching the tables on the interviewer and insulting them?
We had an old partner that gave interviews. They were the most intimidating and scary interviews ever.
First the man was 6-4 200 lbs., just physical intimidating. When you sat at the interview he would ask what is your name, school, and a few other pleasantries. Then all he asked was, “What questions do you have fro me.” That was the interview. If you didn’t come with questions (good questions at that) the interview was quick and you were not getting the job. In this situation the interviewer purposely became the interviewee.
The Key to a Healthier, Wealthier Life (and a better Golf Score!)
August 22nd, 2008 at 8:24 am@ Brian – All the time I quit a goal because I sucked at it! I think the best way to insure that you do something all the way through 1) Track it or, 2) Tell everyone about it. if other people know about it, they can support you and even motivate you to complete, besides that, who wants to tell their friends they failed? or 3) do it with a friend. Make common goal with a bud and work towards it together.
Interview Tip: Leave the salary out of it.
August 21st, 2008 at 4:47 pm@ Bruce – Thanks for your two cents, they are always welcome. I think your response definitely highlights the importance of research. Going into the interview, knowing what the standard wage is and the standard knowledge/work level is a great base for proving why you are worth more.
Interview Tip: Leave the salary out of it.
August 21st, 2008 at 8:39 am@ Jaime – I would love to answer your question but I think Cheryl did it for me!
@ Glenn – your right, researching does deserve its own post, and it will get it!
@ Cheryl – some great points on negotiations. I would definitely counter in questions about salary with a range. I would not want my employer knowing what I was getting somewhere else. If it is to high, they may loose interest in thinking your to expensive and if it is too low you may loose out on some money!
5 Everyday Gas Saving Tips
August 4th, 2008 at 10:04 am@ Ryan – Good point on having the windows down. I didn’t think of that factor. When I was doing my mini experiment I was able to keep the windows up. Probably made a large difference.
A new way to squeeze cash from your home
June 2nd, 2008 at 7:33 pmScot – I think you have some valid points with the information we had about this new process. What do you feel now that Jeff posted additional information?
Jeff – Thanks for your input. It sounds like its alot more of a risky investment for a bank then what you would normally think a bank would participate in. But I suppose that it is that you are an “Investor” and not a “lender” as you said on your comment. Thanks again for your readership and comment.
Daily Business Zen: Is there such thing as too much social media?
May 16th, 2008 at 6:40 amCassie,
I like the point of blogs don’t post drunk pictures! But I still feel like you guys have a more positive attitude towards the human race!! I agree as we age the content we search out and post matures with us. But I think the issue is the teenagers.
Teenagers will always be teenagers and is there to much social media, like there is to much TV and video games? I think we all would say yes, they all need to be done in moderation, so its not really a new issue. But I feel like social media is a bigger media than video games and TV. At least video games are done as a group often times, you don’t see many facebook profile parties.
Its more a new fold to the problem laid on top of the challenge of the next generation. I guess the question is, does a teenager lose something in developing when they are watching you tube video’s of ghost riding their car opposed to participating in community service, or networking at an after school program? Is this just a parenting issue?
Daily Business Zen: Is there such thing as too much social media?
May 15th, 2008 at 7:05 amThanks for the discussion Greg and Norcross. I agree that using it properly is key. But I think the point is that most people, most people college years and younger are not using it wisely. We’ve never seen anything of this mass that attracts this many young people. I think I can see where the social media can be a determent to a childs learning and development.
"Please turn off all electronic devices" - Why?
May 6th, 2008 at 7:50 amI may have to shoot myself on the plane if I am stuck sitting next to some idiot on a conference call. Unfortunately people are not always born with manners and it is the airlines job to step in and enforce them to ensure everyone has a nice trip. I would hate to see cell phones allowed on planes.
You think crying babies are bad, what about cocky businessmen and teenagers!
5 Unusual Things To Do Your First Week On The Job
April 16th, 2008 at 9:19 amnice points. I do many of these throughout the day. Befriending the little people is so important. In alot of offices processors and secretaries can be great allies in helping you get stuff done. can’t hurt to have them on your side!
Also google alerts are very important if your a heavily client/service oriented firm. I set them up for major clients to have stuff to talk about to the client or managers. Also can alert you to service needs they may need and you can anticipate issues.
Only disagreement is the busy sign. I prefer open doors (if my cube had one) If I need to really concentrate our office provides focus rooms where you can close the door and work uninterrupted (which I never use). I think it is more important to be open, especially in the beginning of your career. If someone does interrupt some important work, i politely tell them, I’ll come to their desk in x hours, I have to finish something.
Good post.
Don't Take it Personal, it's only business: being honest to others and yourself.
April 16th, 2008 at 6:44 am@ Michel – Thanks for the comment. As for taking a broad layoff personally, i think that hints to my relative statement. Laying off 10,000 people may not be very personal, but it is slightly. It does at least mean you were in the first 10,000 to go. The only way I can see it not personal is if they went out of business and every employee was gone! But maybe I’m competitive and always want to be the best! Thanks again.
@ Dan – I never thought of it as good interpersonal skills but you have a good point. Good managers would know how to avoid saying things like that! Thanks!
@ Alison – A lot of us put our heart and our soul into our work. especially while we are young and may not have family’s of our own. Learning to take constructive criticism is one of the greatest skills you should learn from a young age. Thanks for the comment.
Daily Business Zen: Tax Advice
April 11th, 2008 at 6:25 amyana, chances are you need to file in both states… however, some states allow reciprocity. that is, if you are a resident of IL but work in WI, WI will not tax your income and IL will. But chances are you need to file a non-resident form in your non resident state and a resident form in your resident state. you should be able to either remove the income from the non-resident on your resident state form or at least deduct the taxes you paid. really depends… Good luck!
Phish Food: Socially Conscience Business
March 25th, 2008 at 7:26 amZak – Thanks for the comment. I did a quick google search on BP ALternative Energy, found one article that makes it sound like it hasn’t been to profitable for the company’s shareholders. Link Below…
http://www.environmentalleader.com/2008/02/28/bp-fuzzy-on-future-alternative-energy-plans/
Creativity: What to do When You're Not Inspired.
March 20th, 2008 at 8:05 am@ Jaclyn – facebook is alright for inspiriation. generally that just distracts me and I end up looking up hold friends for hours. I like your google doc idea. I do the same sorta by copying a link in several places or bookmarking it in a temp file until i can read it and fully digest it. Thanks!
@GL Hoffman – I like the your idea. I hope to get to it by April 1! Thanks!
Creativity: What to do When You're Not Inspired.
March 18th, 2008 at 1:31 pm@ Tiffany – I totally agree, sometimes the issue is breaking down the ideas and deciding on just one. Keeping an open outlook is important, but can be challenging at times when we must become focused on a single issue. Thanks!
@ Newb – Thanks for the editing! corrected.
Poll: What do you use for contact management?
March 12th, 2008 at 12:42 pmwhere is lotus notes?
Coffee Break: Should I tip or should I go
March 2nd, 2008 at 9:15 pmKarl, I dream of the days when i don’t need to worry about tipping everyone I meet in a day like in the UK! Thanks for the comment!
Making Yourself Indispensable: Bottom Line Minded
February 8th, 2008 at 7:43 amARRiiVE – Thanks for the comment. However, I still believe profit makes the world go round. Being worth something and sustainable growth are two separate things.
Most companies can run for a period of time without profit thanks to investors and loans. Working capital comes from investors that believe there is a potential for profit, otherwise they wouldn’t invest. Youtube will do fine for a while because google believes the short-term losses will lead to gains in the long run. Fortunately, because google makes enough profit through their search engine and other programs, they can support this risky adventure; i.e. infusing youtube with working capital. If 10 years down the road youtube is still unprofitable, you will see fewer upgrades, and maybe even a sale; it wont be growing anymore.
Presidential Candidates and Taxes: 2nd Half
February 6th, 2008 at 9:10 pmBlactooth – the good doctor has some interesting idea’s. unfortantly we will never reach the type of federalism he aspires for without starting the colonies all over agian.
Dan – Huckabee is still in the race yes. But he is more of an underdog than the Giants! even with a couple wins.
Helicopter Parents: Taking Care of Business
February 6th, 2008 at 1:28 pmOn a second note:
Ryan – good suggestion on the read. I perused Arnett’s site and he has some interesting theories. I liked his main reason for why adulthood has been pushed up and it relates well. Quote From Jeff Arnett’s Emerging Adulthood Chapter 1:
“The most important reason of all for the rise in the
typical ages of entering marriage and parenthood is less tangible than changes in sexual behavior or more years spent in college and graduate school. There has been a profound change in how young people view the meaning and value of becoming an adult and entering the adult roles of spouse and parent.”
I can see this. In the 50′s and 60′s for the most part children aspired to be like their parents. Like the Beaver’s. Now in the 90′s and 00′s we want to be like “Friends” for the rest of our life – That is good looking and carefree! There is definitely a change in what young people value out of life, and currently its Youth and Joy, not Stability and Comfort like the old days!
related – I am curious on Arnett’s opinion related to the perceived early entrance to adult hood. By that I mean the 13 year old girl that wants to act like a 20 year old at the mall? My perception is that this is a fairly new phenom (I’m young and I don’t know about teenagers in the 70′s and 80′s). Will this push the emerging adulthood stage even longer…. say from 15 – 25 years of age? Or are they just defining a new characteristic of the teenager stage?
Helicopter Parents: Taking Care of Business
February 6th, 2008 at 1:16 pmThanks everyone for your comments you all have some good points. I would like to address the sensationalism that a few of you have mentioned.
I don’t think this is the norm at all. In the above stat there was only a max possibly 27% of students with overactive parents, and that is split with underactive parents.
Here is a study that UCLA performed that gives some figures. It looks like there to much involvement in various college related activities from 3.7% – 10.3% of college students. All of the high end numbers dealt with students decisions around going to and what college to attend, which is reasonable.
The lower numbers averaging 4.3% of students feel their parents are too involved with dealing with officials, courses, and activities at college.
http://www.gseis.ucla.edu/heri/PDFs/pubs/briefs/brief-012408-07FreshmanNorms.pdf
However, I did just waste all this time typing this comment cause I feel like these stats are inherently flawed. First they survey students. And as I stated above, the students that have helicopter parents are likely enjoying it and therefore would not report “too much” involvement. A good study would survey college officials and employers.
Also most studies state involvement varies greatly with race, white being the least involved. In addition, with a glance over of the various studies I located, they all seemed contradicting… some said it helps students, some say it hurts, and I even ran across one that says it hurts the gradewise but makes the experience better. (google: Study of Helicopter Parents)
My end conclusion… This is probably not a huge generation defining issue. But the stories are interesting.
Daily Business Zen: Mom can I borrow $1,000,000?
January 30th, 2008 at 6:48 amJacob – That is a good strategy to only borrow if you can repay them immediately. Often however, that is small money we are talking about. Fortunately for me, my family would not be able to loan me any significant amount of money!
Kate – I know how you feel. I had to borrow a few months of money from my Mother between the time I finished school and started work. My campus job ended, and I ended up living in IL and working with my father in a factory just to pay the rent on my apartment in Milwaukee until my “grown up” job began. It helped offset any expenses my Mom and Dad were helping to pay in that time off. Thanks for the comment!